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RiftHbot
Version: 0.25 beta
by: acheliuspjr, Protonova
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We won't release any new version of this addon because the new one is a lot better in terms of configuration and speed:
http://riftui.com/downloads/info227-LifeBinderBeta.html



















Almost complete rewrite of riftHealer addon mostly with performance in mind and more functionality regarding buffs, debuffs

Now is in beta stage but i'm working to fix where i can

version 0.27 is only a bugfix version, we are working to edit that addon to make an even better version, so stay tuned..

it's my first addon in rift so i'm prepared to expect bugs

TO OPEN THE CONFIGURATION WINDOW CLICK ON THE GREEN CIRCLE ON THE MAIN BAR

Warning: For mouseover macros you have to change from @mouseoverui to @mouseover

Are not in this version:
-pets support (but who needs pets on raid frames?)
-Pvp status indication
-Move up/move down buttons on buff lists

What is in this version:
-raid frames resize (first implementation)
-Aggro detection
-Los detection
-basic raid frames functionalities
-[beta] castbar on the target frame
-Mouseover functionality
-Click macros
-debuff recording (saves debuffs you encounter into a list to be able to view later) and if needed to insert into the debuff list
-Change role buttons ( the roles part of the apy is temporary and i can't retrieve how many specs you have)

Every Buff, Debuff and mouse click association is defined only for the current role, every role has it's set of buffs,debuffs,mouse associations

Automatically when you change role the set automatically swaps



What about those buff slots?

There are 4 buff slots and 1 debuff slot
they are located:
-Two on top right of the frames (from right to left are slot1 and slot2)
-Two on Bottom left of the frames (from left to right are slot3 and slot4)
-One on Bottom Center of the frames for the debuff


Known Issues:
-Only in group mode and during combat if a player disconnects, the game sort the players in the group moving the disconnected player last, but i cannot reassign the frames mouseover unit id during combat so it bugs out, i'm trying to fix it but i don't want to complicate things too much or they will easily break

Issues for version 0.25 (fixed with 0.26)
-the click area of the header bar is a lot large than the bar itself so if you turn the camera rightclicking it will intercept it and you can't turn the camera, fixed in the upcoming version
-Error while setting the fourth buff slot on the fouth spec

Issues for version 0.2 (fixed with 0.25)
-Today (16/03/2012) i've more extensively tested in a 20 people raid and i found that when you apply a great number of buffs at the same time it slow down the game considerably (like when you are spamming Healing Flood in combat on a 20 ppl raid), rift has an incredible amount of buffs on every character at the same time --- fixed in the upcoming version 0.25
-Los indicator doesn't work like it's intended but is fixed in the upcoming version 0.25




Huge thanks to RagebeastRT for writing riftHealer
and also huge thanks to doxxx for the LibSimpleWidgets library
21-03-2012 | version 0.27
-Fixed performance error when a lot of buffs are removed at the same time
18-03-2012 | Version 0.26
-Fixed header bar so it doesn't intercept rightclicks anymore
-Fixed an error while setting the fourth slot of the fourth spec
16-03-2012 | Version 0.25
-Fixed los visualization errors
-Fixed performance problem when multiple buffs are added at the same time
-First implementation of frame resizing
-Modified debuff recording, now it won't miss anything but if you encounter a lot of debuffs popping up at the same time it will slow the game for a very short amount of time so enable this feature only if needed to find a debuff name
-Upon entering combat the header bar and the six roles buttons are hidden, they will show up again when combat ends (done because in combat that bar is useless and takes screen space)

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Unread 03-18-12, 01:46 PM  
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Sorry to bother you again, but this time I have a question ^^

I really don't know if the addon api permits this, so I'll just ask: would it be possible to have the groups in the raid grow from right to left, instead of from left to right like we have now? It'd be really nice to have the option to choose the growth direction ^^

thanks in advance for you time! ^^
I wanted from the start to include some form of styles for the frames (the code is written to support that in the future) but it's only planned for now.
I also need a similar thing, to have a different style: horizontal groups that grow upwards but I have to face performance problems and stability first before I start with that.
I'll make sure to do the styles part in the most flexible way I can because I need that too
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i so could kiss you for working on this.

i have a few questions, if you have the time.

i can't seem to figure out how to resize the raid frames. is how to do that written down anywhere?

it appears as if rhb isn't accurately detecting "in range" people. i often have my heals cast on me despite the person's unit frame being green. any idea why this might be happening? i hate wasting mana and cast time. (this is a problem in the in-game raid frames as well, it's not just rhb.)

if i think of anything else, i'll drop you a line again.

thanks again!
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i so could kiss you for working on this.

i have a few questions, if you have the time.

i can't seem to figure out how to resize the raid frames. is how to do that written down anywhere?

it appears as if rhb isn't accurately detecting "in range" people. i often have my heals cast on me despite the person's unit frame being green. any idea why this might be happening? i hate wasting mana and cast time. (this is a problem in the in-game raid frames as well, it's not just rhb.)

if i think of anything else, i'll drop you a line again.

thanks again!
From the api I have only one flag that says me if a player is "unreachable", that flag is true, null or false, I can't for example see the coordinates and calculate the range because I haven't any positional data until patch 1.8 if the PTS api will go live like that.

With that said I can say that there is a dead zone between the max range of your spells and the minimum range for the blocked flag to change
Probably(this is just speculation, I have to experiment that myself) 40m is the range when the api says that is "reachable" and 35m is the maximum range of the heal spells

Because of that I've unchecked the option "auto cast on player" or something like that in the options
When someone is out of range I get an hand cursor that immediately tells me that is effectively out of range instead of wasting time and casting on myself that's confusing because you are thinking that you are healing that player,and at the end you are healing yourself

Regarding the resize
There is a first implementation from version 0.25
On the bottom right of the addon you see a resize symbol , you can drag it and resize the frames, for now it's that but i'm planning to do something a lot better for the future
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i love this addon so much.thanks for your work.

but I have some bug and Suggestions:

1: sometimes the aggro would disappeared when i'm tank.

2:i hoped my namepanel of the rhb could be always in the first row first column when i was in a raid.

3:now i set swords as 3 dots (swords UI) nearby my namepanel of the rhb. i hoped rhb could do that. lol
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i love this addon so much.thanks for your work.

but I have some bug and Suggestions:

1: sometimes the aggro would disappeared when i'm tank.

2:i hoped my namepanel of the rhb could be always in the first row first column when i was in a raid.

3:now i set swords as 3 dots (swords UI) nearby my namepanel of the rhb. i hoped rhb could do that. lol

Ty for showing your support. We are current doing big changes to the addon.

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    Sometimes the aggro would disappeared when I'm tank.
    Ty for bringing it to or attention. We will look into a fix for the next version. We are redoing how aggro is displayed, hopefully it will self resolve.
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    I hoped my namepanel of the rhb could be always in the first row first column when i was in a raid.
    We spoke about this before and at the moment is something we plan to implement. But at the moment sorting of panels are left to the Rift API.
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    Now i set swords as 3 dots (swords UI) nearby my namepanel of the rhb. i hoped rhb could do that. lol
    Sorry, can you elaborate more on what you mean by swords? Do you mean if RHB will support combo points tracking?
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Now i set swords as 3 dots (swords UI) nearby my namepanel of the rhb. i hoped rhb could do that. lol

Sorry, can you elaborate more on what you mean by swords? Do you mean if RHB will support combo points tracking?
as you said,the swords is combo points.and i hope RHB will support tracking.
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Some feedback: With only 1 debuff slot this add-on will be of limited use to raiders.

When I play my healer I need to know which debuffs/dots are on a target even if I cannot cleanse them. I would say investigate how to show 4 buffs and 4 debuffs (minimum).

Other than that I see a lot of promise in the add-on and I appreciate that you still have it in beta status.

I would also say that buffs should be a whitelist but debuffs should be a blacklist, i.e., show anything that would show on the standard raid frames unless it's on the blacklist.
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I see a lot of promise in the add-on and I appreciate that you still have it in beta status.

Yes indeed, the addon is still very much in alpha stage. These past few releases have been proof of concept versions. The release for 1.8 will be the biggest release! Just today we finished the ability to white/black list buffs/debuffs. And a few other changes to how buffs/debuffs are seen.

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    as you said,the swords is combo points.and i hope RHB will support tracking.
    No I'm sorry. There are no immediate plans to support combo points on the raidui panel.
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    With only 1 debuff slot this add-on will be of limited use to raiders.
    Hopefully by the next release we will have a finalized version of how buffs/debuffs are handled. We will allow you to control how many and which buffs/debuffs you will see (varied between 4 to 1). Also the option to just be away of the type of debuff.
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    I would also say that buffs should be a whitelist but debuffs should be a blacklist, i.e., show anything that would show on the standard raid frames unless it's on the blacklist.
    At the moment the buffs/debuffs filtering is white listing and we are changing that probably for the next version if all testing goes fine. We are making big and exciting changes almost on a daily bases. We hope everything will be we're planning comes out as 1.8 comes out in April ~15th? (right after this world event).
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Does the new RiftHelaer support other language clients... like german for example?
Last time I tried it, it wouldn't work. So I thought I just wait a bit and try it again later. ^^
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Does the new RiftHelaer support other language clients... like german for example?
Last time I tried it, it wouldn't work. So I thought I just wait a bit and try it again later. ^^
VERY FUNNY! I am working on adding localizations to the addon as we speak! Working on the template 1st. Translation however, wouldn't be available for quite some time. Maybe 2 weeks after the 1.8 release (don't quote me, I'm unsure). This is due to the fact that users of those native languages will have to submit translations and it will have to be validated on our part. This takes time.

If anyone wants to volunteer to submit translations in any language, just PM me on RiftUI. Make sure to include what language, how to contact you, and class/role you play as. Thank you.
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Awesome. Exactly what I was looking for.

I wonder if it's possible to let the raidframes only show debuffs that you can actually cure. Let's say curse, disease and poision for Clerics. That would make things a lot easier to set up, being a healer. No idea if the API offers that feature though.

Thanks for your work!


Edit: Just noticed you answered a similar question earlier. Nevermind Looking forward to the changes and features you plan.
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Awesome. Exactly what I was looking for.

I wonder if it's possible to let the raidframes only show debuffs that you can actually cure. Let's say curse, disease and poision for Clerics. That would make things a lot easier to set up, being a healer. No idea if the API offers that feature though.

Thanks for your work!


Edit: Just noticed you answered a similar question earlier. Nevermind Looking forward to the changes and features you plan.
we are working for a new version a lot better particularly on the buff/debuff functionality where you can also move the buff slots, choose which slot will show debuffs, add and remove slots and you can choose if the debuff list is a Whitelist/Blacklist

For a very early alpha of the slot positioning :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lGaGDmQ734
The mouse is not shown but you literally drag the slot where you want

for now we are focused on an easier interface including thing like this
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As we push for excellence with our addon and synergy with our (current/potential) user base we want to directly ask players certain questions about core features of the new addon. Today I would like to ask two questions about color scheming and language support.

Color Scheme Survey:
http://goo.gl/iFE5g

Language Support Survey:
http://goo.gl/MAUu9

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I wonder if it's possible to let the raidframes only show debuffs that you can actually cure. Let's say curse, disease and poision for Clerics. That would make things a lot easier to set up, being a healer. No idea if the API offers that feature though.
At the moment the addon only grabs from what you see. We are changing that for the next version. You will have the option to whitelist/blacklist while automatically filtering curable or uncurable conditions (curse/magic/poison).

On a technical level, this is our debuff logic. In terms of priority, if blacklist is check and if it's curable it will be shown on the next available condition slot. While whitelisted debuffs will be show on the 1st available condition slot that doesn't have another whitelisted debuff on it.
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Hi ^^

I wanted to ask you something... is there a way to see hots from other players in the raidframe too? I'm thinking it'll be vital when patch 1.8 hits and some of warden's hots don't stack anymore. Blinding casting hots on people who could already be covered would be a waste of gdcs and mana, but manually clicking on everyone to check before casting is not a viable option either :|
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Hi ^^

I wanted to ask you something... is there a way to see hots from other players in the raidframe too? I'm thinking it'll be vital when patch 1.8 hits and some of warden's hots don't stack anymore. Blinding casting hots on people who could already be covered would be a waste of gdcs and mana, but manually clicking on everyone to check before casting is not a viable option either :|
That is in development, will be available in the new version, as soon as possible, we are working right now to add almost everything that was asked, and more, a lot of things will be changed, you'll see
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